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Re: Casuals are destroying this series.

donotreply@activision.com — Mon, 26 Dec 2011 22:12:44 GMT

I post ridiculous crap?

If only I can post a few fail pics for you. I can tell you only read any posts made by me in any thread related to this one. You live up to your name.

@misc - It doesn't take long to understand the game's mechanics. There is a whole website for CoD and other FPS games. And if you got a question about it, you can easily ask it in any thread relating to the mechanics. Anyone with knowledge about it can answer it.

There have been countless threads about lag compensation. Don't play dumb there. Go check out the PS3 section.

Esmorgue also has two threads going, one that is migrating around the forums, that Ghandi has replied in and has also said that he will check up on those two. He is insisting that everyone posts in those two threads for any technical issues they have in the game. Many people post their issues in those instead of making new threads. No one's issues are being buried.

Re: Casuals are destroying this series.

donotreply@activision.com — Mon, 26 Dec 2011 21:09:21 GMT

platinumb wrote:

The other CoD sites are made by fans of the game and they are populated by fans. Of course you will only hear about tactics and no criticism whatsoever.

This site has over 19 million views. It is the most populated CoD site out of all. It may not show a majority, but it shows a large portion.

You don't just see threads about nerfing and buffing. This place has plenty of topics on MOABs and YouTube videos. Why you see more "change this, change that" than anything else? Well, the devs never reply to any of those topics so more and more are made.

I rather see people demand a change than to claim this game as the best CoD. Nothing gets changed when people act like lambs and sheep. As for an example, these horrendous spawns.

The problem is that most of the useful threads are bumped off the first page before anyone gets to even see them, by useless repetative threads as this one.

Just looking at your numbers ... 8000+ posts and I havent seen one of them that was actually constructive. By those numbers, your complaining is op.

I too frequent other forums, but even the complainers on those occasionally post useful stuff ..... or they just fess up to the fact they are just trolling.

Any intelligent replies are met with " you're an idiot " or "your a moron" or "hurr durr ....... if a weapon shot 20,000,000 rpm and had a damage of 2356 had zero recoil and had a capacity of 387659990 rounds ........... would it be op?"

For the most part I dont even come here for legit discusssion any more..... I just find humor in all the rediculous crap that gets posted. Its kinda like Howard Stern ...... not funny, not sensible, but starngely entertaining.

Re: Casuals are destroying this series.

donotreply@activision.com — Mon, 26 Dec 2011 21:02:15 GMT

I agree with the sentiment but not the cause.

IT'S NOTHING TO DO WITH CASUALS.

IT'S THE YEARLY RELEASE CYCLE.

I'd like to see 1 studio take care of multiplayer and ALL studios use the same code base.

This should at least stop the same issues occuring with each release and features being randomly added and dropped in each release (though this mainly affects the PC version).

Finally they need to innovate with gameplay mechanics, they haven't changed at least since COD4 and they are by no means perfect.

Re: Casuals are destroying this series.

donotreply@activision.com — Mon, 26 Dec 2011 20:44:53 GMT

I was thinking about the re-release idea myself. When the new consoles come out, I'm going to miss COD4 through Black Ops, and what if they shut down XBOX live for the 360? A huge chunk of my teenage memories would be gone. So I came up with this:

Every 6 months, they re-release one of the old CODs with touched up graphics, improved spawns, improved connections, and some new maps. It's easy money for activision (which they love) and I get the play my favorites with new maps AND they can work for 3+ years on a new game. If anything those 3 years could be used to design a new engine for the new consoles.

You know, I might be fine with the copy/paste system, but ever since they started doing it, the games have had serious problems with the connection, and that's another thing they could adress in that time. Possibly building the dedicated servers?

I don't know, I'm just starting to grow wreary of these connection problems. And no, it's not my connection, I'm fine on COD4-MW2, it's Black Ops and MW3. I've been playing COD since COD4 and have probably 20+ days played on all of them combined, and MW3 just isnt doing it for me. Lag comp and the shitty maps did it in for me. I havn't given up on the series yet, but I have given up on pre-ordering them. I definetly would not have bought COD elite and MW3 at full price Activision has swindled me for the last time.

-An angry COD fan.

Re: Casuals are destroying this series.

donotreply@activision.com — Mon, 26 Dec 2011 20:32:12 GMT

The UMP kills in the same amounts of shots as every other SMG, has the lowest ROF, and moderate recoil. It takes SIX shots to kill at long range. It dishes out the least damage.

How the hell is that overpowered?

And no, that's completely different. By your logic, every perk is unbalanced. Having a third perk is unbalanced. Having a second perk is unbalanced.

Having a fourth perk is in no way similar to the example you gave.

Re: Casuals are destroying this series.

donotreply@activision.com — Mon, 26 Dec 2011 20:24:49 GMT

19 million wievs in a year then and take into acount all who logs in 4 times a day to check for updates.

I think the problem is that most threads are related to in game mechanics that is too hard for many players to handle aka n00bs and they tend to take up valuable space from people having real problems like lag or unablitity to play the game.

Even though MW3 worked flawlessly for me at release I will not be so naive as to think BLOPS 2 will work in an instant since Treayarc tends to release unfinished products.

With BLOPS the PS3 players could not play the game properly until february 2011 (4 months after rls). Treyarc also showed their true face by simply saying in that famous january press release that they would not hestitate to cancel multiplayer over the whole PS3 platform should they be unable to fix it.

Since this never has been a problem with IW I would probably wait until their 2013 relase of Call of Duty but I think that Black Ops 2 will probably be the end of call of Duty as we know it. I really hope Treyarc comes up with an engine of their own instead of using IWs old CoD4 engine like they did on w@w and Blops...

Casuals are destroying this series.

donotreply@activision.com — Sun, 25 Dec 2011 03:01:08 GMT

And no, I'm not talking about laz0r beam AR's, EZ mode Pro Perk challenges, the Box of Skill or deathstreaks. I'm talking about the fact that they don't care if this game progresses or not. That is the reason why this series is going down hill. They buy anything with "Cod" on it. Do they push the devs for a better game? No. Do they give a rat's a$s about the spawns? No. Do they care about the amount of problems this game has? Nope. They say "I play for fun." Funny thing is, if they push the devs for a better quality game, it would probably be even more fun. I honestly give this series 3 more years until the devs start putting in only one map with 1,000,000,000 problems. Such a shame really.

Sheep(Fanboys):

sergestorm

Re: Casuals are destroying this series.

donotreply@activision.com — Mon, 26 Dec 2011 19:08:50 GMT

JollyJ wrote:

seriously this post is stupid, just casue people do not have to time to play 12 hours a day they should not play this game casue of the core gamers?

More casual players than core players so they have to make it good for everyone, when ever you are selling things people are gunna be pissed and people are gunna be happy, but if more are happy than pissed you have a good product, and considering how many people baught the game they ahve more happy than pissed and even with all the bad shi* in the game it is still one of the best FPS ever.

If you read the OP I'm not even MENTIONING the bullsh*t they put into this game for them. I'm talking about the fact they let the devs get away with ANYTHING. They don't care about progression at all. Also, LMFAO at the "Best FPS ever." quality> Quantity.

Re: Casuals are destroying this series.

donotreply@activision.com — Mon, 26 Dec 2011 19:02:48 GMT

seriously this post is stupid, just casue people do not have to time to play 12 hours a day they should not play this game casue of the core gamers?

More casual players than core players so they have to make it good for everyone, when ever you are selling things people are gunna be pissed and people are gunna be happy, but if more are happy than pissed you have a good product, and considering how many people baught the game they ahve more happy than pissed and even with all the bad shi* in the game it is still one of the best FPS ever.

Re: Casuals are destroying this series.

donotreply@activision.com — Mon, 26 Dec 2011 18:57:24 GMT

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zszpdSEPlPc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKz77XH3OeI&feature=youtu.be

Best spawns on the planet.

Re: Casuals are destroying this series.

donotreply@activision.com — Mon, 26 Dec 2011 18:25:03 GMT

I've been in sales for almost a decade of my life and I can tell you from experience that Activision does not care about fanatics of CoD as much as they do the casual.

The reason being is that theu already know they've got your money and the only thing their interested in is growing their profits. Any sales or marketing person will tell you that you can only grow your profits by getting to the people who are not die hard fans and getting them to spend their money.

Now at point of purchase Activision doesn't care if you're a life long player or you buy it, play it once and never touch it again because it's the same $60.

Over time they will come back and cater to the fanatics in order to groom you for their next CoD title launch so that you'll buy that.

Big business thinks about the big picture. They don't think about what happens just in the present they think about what they need to happen in a year. I'm willing to be you'll be pretty happy with them in a year and waiting for the release of the new titile.

Re: Casuals are destroying this series.

donotreply@activision.com — Mon, 26 Dec 2011 17:29:07 GMT

The other CoD sites are made by fans of the game and they are populated by fans. Of course you will only hear about tactics and no criticism whatsoever.

This site has over 19 million views. It is the most populated CoD site out of all. It may not show a majority, but it shows a large portion.

You don't just see threads about nerfing and buffing. This place has plenty of topics on MOABs and YouTube videos. Why you see more "change this, change that" than anything else? Well, the devs never reply to any of those topics so more and more are made.

I rather see people demand a change than to claim this game as the best CoD. Nothing gets changed when people act like lambs and sheep. As for an example, these horrendous spawns.

Re: Casuals are destroying this series.

donotreply@activision.com — Mon, 26 Dec 2011 13:56:17 GMT

Very good post. I could not agree more.

Also this forum is sadly not representative of what the majority thinks of the game. I tend to stray away to other forums where tactics and differnt setups are discussed in a friendly manor.

All you hear in this forum is "Change this or that" or "This game sucks man" and it is hardly representative of the rest of the CoD community.

Re: Casuals are destroying this series.

donotreply@activision.com — Mon, 26 Dec 2011 13:43:31 GMT

Some Prefer a better scope than the Acog. Acog only enhaces distance by x1,4 whereas a Hybrid Scope enhances it by x4. You can build yurself an M21 EBR from your MK14 by leveling it up.

As for the Proficiencies you could call it a 4:th perk if you will but it does behave differently on different guntypes and that is something an ordinary perk does not to the same extent.

For instance the Stability Proficiency is less effective then Kick on an SMG or an AR but more effective than Kick on an LMG or a Sniperrifle (and that is just one example)

Now, if ALL weapons are OP as you say, they are at least balanced or do you want a gunfight to go on for a full 15 seconds, think again. You (and everyone else would go mad) and it would completly destroy the tempo and the pace of the game.

If you need a slower FPS try BF3 or go back to Black Ops. I often go back to CoD4 and MW2 and still have fun with those games and as Elite is now it works better with Black Ops.

( I only got Elite to get the DLC faster and a bit cheaper than if I would be buying them one by one so I got the Hardened Edition so that everything they decide to throw in in the future would be already paid for.)

If you think the UMP is so OP are you sure you are playing MW3 and not MW2? Check your box for referance

Re: Casuals are destroying this series.

donotreply@activision.com — Mon, 26 Dec 2011 07:17:44 GMT

I know it's not a perfect world, but wouldn't you think the so-called matchmaking could better suit us with players more in our range? It's really no fun getting wasted by a "stacked" team and no fun being the "stacked" team. The best matches are the close ones in my opinion. Just a theory about how matchmaking is supposed to be.

Re: Casuals are destroying this series.

donotreply@activision.com — Mon, 26 Dec 2011 07:13:36 GMT

It isn't about me losing gun battles or matches consistently and being raging all of the time, it is about what the game has become.

The last time this game progressed was MW2. After that, less innovation has been brought to the table. They also added tons of things that aid bad players. Because you need to be spoonfed for being bad at an already easy game.

I didn't know there was a wrong way to play videogames. People have fun doing a huge variety of things in any game. One may like killing cops in GTA rather than doing the story.

Death streaks are unbalanced. DMH ruins shotguns and makes Dead Zone infuriating. Etc. etc. If you want to stop raging because someone is better, get skilled players and team up or get better. You shouldn't be rewarded for dying.

Re: Casuals are destroying this series.

donotreply@activision.com — Mon, 26 Dec 2011 06:38:34 GMT

am i the only 1 that is giving CoD 1 last chance, after this CoD i find that treyarch is the only dev that cares a bit...but if they screw up the next CoD im done with this series

Re: Casuals are destroying this series.

donotreply@activision.com — Mon, 26 Dec 2011 06:32:37 GMT

sergestorm wrote:

Waa Waa Waa, if you don't like it, don't buy it and don't play it. Move on d-bags. The only reason you don't like it is because you blow at it.

1.78 K/D and rising. 79 win streak by myself. Bye bye cod sheep.

Re: Casuals are destroying this series.

donotreply@activision.com — Mon, 26 Dec 2011 06:05:01 GMT

Its just funny how everyones opinion is different yet everyone thinks they're right. I would say that CoD has progressively gotten better from MW onward. Each one better than the last. MW3, in my opinion is the best CoD by far for many reasons. Does it have flaws? Sure but they are the types of flaws you find in just about every videogame these days like matchmaking issues and lag, yet CoD seems to get the most negative feedback about it simply because its the most popular game.

People who say the game is bad or unplayable are simply lieing out of rage. If the game is so bad and unplayable then why are we all sinking days/weeks/months into it?

Everyone expects the devs to release a perfect game but thats absolutely impossible. Instead they release something that has issues here and there and then they fix and adjust certain things depending on fan feedback. Weapons get nerfed, weapons get buffed, glitches get patched, matchmaking gets tweaked, spawns get adjusted, lag gets modified, features are added etc. The post release support is beyond generous seeing as any one of us could have rented the product before buying it. No one made you buy this product, you did it under your own recognencies. If you think CoD is such a shabby franchise then why not put your money towards something better..or right, there isnt anything better.

I also think that if you arent playing videogames for fun then you're playing for the wrong reasons. People are always trying to dictate how others play, dictate whats fair and unfair and dictate what needs to be changed. Some people think Deathstreaks are unfair and unbalanced, yet others think they are balanced and merely help certain teams from getting slaughtered and possibly rage quitting. So is it right for you to demand that Deathstreaks get removed from the game just because they ruined a couple of your killstreaks? Absolutely not, because when you're the one benefitting from the Deathstreak then everything is fine, its only when you're on the recieving end where you tend to complain about things.

Re: Casuals are destroying this series.

donotreply@activision.com — Mon, 26 Dec 2011 05:29:31 GMT

Waa Waa Waa, if you don't like it, don't buy it and don't play it. Move on d-bags. The only reason you don't like it is because you blow at it.