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    <pubDate>Thu, 09 May 2013 23:08:21 GMT</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Would you like BF3 size maps?</title>
      <link>http://community.activision.com/message/414422718?tstart=0#414422718</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:a39c18c1-74c8-4cf7-8967-33ee159fb812] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;I would like Black ops sized maps more than MW3 sized maps. You know, maps large enough to spawn in without having to immediately spin around just in case someone is right frickin next to you. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:a39c18c1-74c8-4cf7-8967-33ee159fb812] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 09 May 2013 23:08:21 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@activision.com</author>
      <guid>http://community.activision.com/message/414422718?tstart=0#414422718</guid>
      <dc:date>2013-05-09T23:08:21Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Would you like BF3 size maps?</title>
      <link>http://community.activision.com/message/414422635?tstart=0#414422635</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:ceb37510-f076-403c-9d7e-a96d4ff0e0b6] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;Caspian on conquest (console) is horrible I only did it to level up may chopper and jets, rush on console is great&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:ceb37510-f076-403c-9d7e-a96d4ff0e0b6] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 09 May 2013 23:03:23 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@activision.com</author>
      <guid>http://community.activision.com/message/414422635?tstart=0#414422635</guid>
      <dc:date>2013-05-09T23:03:23Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Would you like BF3 size maps?</title>
      <link>http://community.activision.com/message/414422634?tstart=0#414422634</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:9b1b84b3-d00e-4f4f-a173-4dfa2b12c930] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;not a chance I love BF3 and all but the maps can feel too big on console at times.&amp;#160; Think about this having BF3 sized maps without 12 v 12 and if they did have 12 v 12 think of the lag there would be on COD, no vehicles, limited sprint. In BF3 you are fast and you have nonstop sprint this game I feel like a fat guy running for 5 6 seconds then getting out of breath&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:9b1b84b3-d00e-4f4f-a173-4dfa2b12c930] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 09 May 2013 23:01:12 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@activision.com</author>
      <guid>http://community.activision.com/message/414422634?tstart=0#414422634</guid>
      <dc:date>2013-05-09T23:01:12Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Would you like BF3 size maps?</title>
      <link>http://community.activision.com/message/414420346?tstart=0#414420346</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:d8cff2c8-0e48-4690-b6d2-bcf15185ae6a] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;No. Cod maps are good the way the are. That's the cod thing. Fast, quick action. Let BF be Bf and COD be COD.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:d8cff2c8-0e48-4690-b6d2-bcf15185ae6a] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 09 May 2013 03:16:12 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@activision.com</author>
      <guid>http://community.activision.com/message/414420346?tstart=0#414420346</guid>
      <dc:date>2013-05-09T03:16:12Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Would you like BF3 size maps?</title>
      <link>http://community.activision.com/message/414420316?tstart=0#414420316</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:88212850-58e6-4603-a461-417c2edf9c81] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;If that's the first time you played it of course it's going to be rough lol it took me months to get used to Battlefield (on console), and I still have a lot to learn. I usually stick with teammates, just looking around objectives to see enemies running around lol but it's hard for me to play sometimes because of the framerate, I get used to Call of Duty's (close to) 60 FPS, I sometimes get motion sickness or headaches from it. Hoping the next generation delivers 60 FPS or at least something very close to it, because if it doesn't I don't know if I'll get Battlefield 4 after all.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Sidetracked from the thread though lol to answer the thread, they'd have to change a lot with the game to make Battlefield sized maps work. 12 player games wouldn't even be close to filling those maps. Battlefield 3 has 24 player lobbies and you still spend a lot of time running around looking for people. So Call of Duty doesn't need Battlefield size maps, it needs more Call of Duty 4, WaW, Black Ops 1 style maps. That way they can keep the run and gun if they want while helping other play styles work too&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:88212850-58e6-4603-a461-417c2edf9c81] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 09 May 2013 03:04:36 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@activision.com</author>
      <guid>http://community.activision.com/message/414420316?tstart=0#414420316</guid>
      <dc:date>2013-05-09T03:04:36Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Would you like BF3 size maps?</title>
      <link>http://community.activision.com/message/414420285?tstart=0#414420285</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:d096ce0d-76d4-4cf4-a877-db6f9d0f9995] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;Say no to BF3-sized maps. Say no to Face-off-sized maps too.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:d096ce0d-76d4-4cf4-a877-db6f9d0f9995] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 09 May 2013 02:50:53 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@activision.com</author>
      <guid>http://community.activision.com/message/414420285?tstart=0#414420285</guid>
      <dc:date>2013-05-09T02:50:53Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Would you like BF3 size maps?</title>
      <link>http://community.activision.com/message/414419707?tstart=0#414419707</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:fd0f5cad-6299-4346-b179-8362974bc662] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;The huge sized maps do have a negative effect upon the intense action due to one factor--the lack of players being spread too thin.&amp;#160; If it were possible on next generation consoles, I'm sure having 64+ players on Battefield sized maps would be the solution.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br/&gt;~RUGGED SAVIOR&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:fd0f5cad-6299-4346-b179-8362974bc662] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 08 May 2013 22:42:32 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@activision.com</author>
      <guid>http://community.activision.com/message/414419707?tstart=0#414419707</guid>
      <dc:date>2013-05-08T22:42:32Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Would you like BF3 size maps?</title>
      <link>http://community.activision.com/message/414419742?tstart=0#414419742</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:960de230-9fb3-48be-9379-a7e374f46ee6] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;I just tried to play BF3 on PC. The game mode was Large Conquest on one of the End Game maps and I died 8 times in a row. I didn't even see where they were shooting from and half were from a chopper. The map is gorgeous but the learning curve is so steep. I don't know where to look for my enemies due to the enormous size of the map. I literally can't see where they are. I guess BF3 isn't for me.&amp;#160;&amp;#160; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:960de230-9fb3-48be-9379-a7e374f46ee6] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 08 May 2013 22:37:05 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@activision.com</author>
      <guid>http://community.activision.com/message/414419742?tstart=0#414419742</guid>
      <dc:date>2013-05-08T22:37:05Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Would you like BF3 size maps?</title>
      <link>http://community.activision.com/message/414419604?tstart=0#414419604</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:a5e7edaf-b32f-4a6e-b62a-8a6dae5b2257] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;Call of Duty is fine with small maps, it allows the game to be more fast paced. On the other hand, BF3 is still very fast paced when our playing TDM. Don't just compare Conquest on BF3, actually compare similar game modes.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:a5e7edaf-b32f-4a6e-b62a-8a6dae5b2257] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 08 May 2013 22:17:48 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@activision.com</author>
      <guid>http://community.activision.com/message/414419604?tstart=0#414419604</guid>
      <dc:date>2013-05-08T22:17:48Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Would you like BF3 size maps?</title>
      <link>http://community.activision.com/message/414419474?tstart=0#414419474</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:3f0c1f8d-0b6d-45d7-b306-724d2cb04c33] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;No interest in playing BF3. COD doesn't need to copy anyone. The map design has taken a dive since BO1 but that doesn't mean huge maps are the answer. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:3f0c1f8d-0b6d-45d7-b306-724d2cb04c33] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 08 May 2013 21:16:31 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@activision.com</author>
      <guid>http://community.activision.com/message/414419474?tstart=0#414419474</guid>
      <dc:date>2013-05-08T21:16:31Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Would you like BF3 size maps?</title>
      <link>http://community.activision.com/message/414419504?tstart=0#414419504</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:cb0d8d12-6ec2-4303-95db-77a896b849a0] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;I used to think I wanted big ol' maps so that strategery and tactitamics mattered, but I'm able to admit to myself now that I'm addicted to the high-adrenaline, constant-action style of blops2.&amp;#160; What I think I'd like to see is balance.&amp;#160; Definitely still provide the insanity of nuketown (and the like), but balance that with some maps that value stealth or long-range accuracy or whatever.&amp;#160; Bit more size would certainly help there, but so would foilage, dimmer lighting, etc.&amp;#160; Give me a mix of SOCOM, smallscale BF3, and Duty and I'm a happy camper (not literally!!).&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:cb0d8d12-6ec2-4303-95db-77a896b849a0] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 08 May 2013 21:10:14 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@activision.com</author>
      <guid>http://community.activision.com/message/414419504?tstart=0#414419504</guid>
      <dc:date>2013-05-08T21:10:14Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Would you like BF3 size maps?</title>
      <link>http://community.activision.com/message/414419010?tstart=0#414419010</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:00e3586a-5efd-4a03-a319-f143a683cf17] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;64 man servers have a hell of a lot more action than CoD could ever muster, and 10x less bullshit.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;but DICE are 10x better developers though.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:00e3586a-5efd-4a03-a319-f143a683cf17] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 08 May 2013 19:05:57 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@activision.com</author>
      <guid>http://community.activision.com/message/414419010?tstart=0#414419010</guid>
      <dc:date>2013-05-08T19:05:57Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Would you like BF3 size maps?</title>
      <link>http://community.activision.com/message/414418981?tstart=0#414418981</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:b410d83b-5cfd-4b87-9fa7-66fecbc4bcd7] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;You can use vehicles to get into the action more quickly anyway.&amp;#160; They're not hard to use, except perhaps the jets take a while ussing a normal controller.&amp;#160; Not sure if a flight stick works better.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:b410d83b-5cfd-4b87-9fa7-66fecbc4bcd7] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 08 May 2013 19:04:10 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@activision.com</author>
      <guid>http://community.activision.com/message/414418981?tstart=0#414418981</guid>
      <dc:date>2013-05-08T19:04:10Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Would you like BF3 size maps?</title>
      <link>http://community.activision.com/message/414418858?tstart=0#414418858</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:5ea610ea-07ba-428a-9ab6-0907341101d4] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;blockquote class="jive-quote"&gt;&lt;p&gt;VR0D wrote:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I think that CoD 3 had vehicles and it was fun.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;It did. However it was VERY limited with perks/attachments/killstreaks/etc. To make room for something to be added something MUST be taken away.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:5ea610ea-07ba-428a-9ab6-0907341101d4] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 08 May 2013 18:15:06 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@activision.com</author>
      <guid>http://community.activision.com/message/414418858?tstart=0#414418858</guid>
      <dc:date>2013-05-08T18:15:06Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Would you like BF3 size maps?</title>
      <link>http://community.activision.com/message/414418653?tstart=0#414418653</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:559b45fb-3f45-4f90-aefe-49d94c4d7244] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;BO2 went too small with their maps.&amp;#160; MW2 sized maps were the best.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:559b45fb-3f45-4f90-aefe-49d94c4d7244] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 08 May 2013 17:33:20 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:date>2013-05-08T17:33:20Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Would you like BF3 size maps?</title>
      <link>http://community.activision.com/message/414418737?tstart=0#414418737</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:20402f5e-8443-48e5-9a89-38251dc541cb] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;RUSH is an amazing game mode. i love how it starts and progressivly unlocks vehicles the longer the game goes&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:20402f5e-8443-48e5-9a89-38251dc541cb] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 08 May 2013 17:28:12 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@activision.com</author>
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      <dc:date>2013-05-08T17:28:12Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Would you like BF3 size maps?</title>
      <link>http://community.activision.com/message/414418691?tstart=0#414418691</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:ad6edd26-3177-4dbf-8e77-217cde3cef5d] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;"if it aint broke, dont fix it" has been CoDs motto since day one with their out dated game engine that cannot keep up with their speed and hit detection. they continue to force the CqC down our throats, making every map smaller than before, making you spawn behind enemy lines, making every single gun fire faster and anything outside an SMG near worthless&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:ad6edd26-3177-4dbf-8e77-217cde3cef5d] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 08 May 2013 17:26:08 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@activision.com</author>
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      <dc:date>2013-05-08T17:26:08Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Would you like BF3 size maps?</title>
      <link>http://community.activision.com/message/414418690?tstart=0#414418690</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:fb5449dd-d7ba-4fa8-8138-82ef179412fa] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;by making EVERY SINGLE MAP CqC, its demise is already happening, with help from terrible hit detection and lag.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;every single map can, and is usually dominated by an SMG.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:fb5449dd-d7ba-4fa8-8138-82ef179412fa] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 08 May 2013 17:24:32 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@activision.com</author>
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      <dc:date>2013-05-08T17:24:32Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Would you like BF3 size maps?</title>
      <link>http://community.activision.com/message/414418528?tstart=0#414418528</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:5f3d1f43-0ae0-429b-965c-830499b4a2f8] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;In battlefield the larger maps are some of the more intense action because of the fact that you will then have air combat in them. and killstreaks in larger maps are actually bigger because of the area. you die faster in smaller maps&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:5f3d1f43-0ae0-429b-965c-830499b4a2f8] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 08 May 2013 16:05:55 GMT</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Would you like BF3 size maps?</title>
      <link>http://community.activision.com/message/413330869?tstart=0#413330869</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:11823dab-ab48-40d8-8cf9-aa109157ef5b] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;There needs to be more variety in the size of CoD maps - there should be large maps [ala Seelow &amp;amp; Outskirts from Waw] as well as medium and small maps.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;But Battelfield sized maps - they are far too big for CoD, without vehicles anyway.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:11823dab-ab48-40d8-8cf9-aa109157ef5b] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 19 Aug 2012 02:56:33 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@activision.com</author>
      <guid>http://community.activision.com/message/413330869?tstart=0#413330869</guid>
      <dc:date>2012-08-19T02:56:33Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>9 months, 3 days ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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