Your grammar is awful.

I still use hardline, but the pro is useless, especially since teammates consistently try to steal your crates, making you incapable of changing them.
That, plus Hacker-Ghosts usually aren't far off, and they usually end up stealing and boobytrapping your crate.

I really think that patching hardline pro was unnecessary, mainly because airdrop packages are the only killsstreak that can be stolen. I kill and steal enemy packages all the time, because I know that's the worst feeling in the game. I literally **** my pants when my airdrop is coming in soon and I see a red dot appear incoming.

then again, running 4/5/6 killstreaks plus hardline pro was kind of cheap, especially with an organized team + one with hardline.

Yep hardline pro is useless, until you see your teammate or enemy turn that ammo into dogs. Its all a matter of perspective

WHERE WERE YOU PRICKS AT WHEN I MENTIONED THIS BEFORE

GOD!!

stupidest care package ever ----- AMMO

WHO THE **** NEEDS AMMO seriously? half the time your playing theres over 1000 ******* guns on the floor......so stupid

and wow i didn't know they changed the successrate,,,,,treyarch you are 100% noob...you make the noobtube look like a pro cannon

anywho,

yes change it back......and change ammo to something different, like make it a weapon or something like RPG or LAW or CROSSBOW with 5 arrows or something, atleast we can use that ****, but AMMO? i have a better chance with my knife, than tryin to retrieve/wait for a care package with AMMO so gay!!!!!

even if ammo was a -1 killstreak meaning "you die you get ammo care package!" people still wouldn't take that **** i mean come on AMMO!!!!

alexwoodgarbage wrote:

 

dorkster81 wrote:

 

WHERE WERE YOU PRICKS AT WHEN I MENTIONED THIS BEFORE

GOD!!

stupidest care package ever ----- AMMO

WHO THE **** NEEDS AMMO seriously? half the time your playing theres over 1000 **** guns on the floor......so stupid

and wow i didn't know they changed the successrate,,,,,treyarch you are 100% noob...you make the noobtube look like a pro cannon

anywho,

yes change it back......and change ammo to something different, like make it a weapon or something like RPG or LAW or CROSSBOW with 5 arrows or something, atleast we can use that ****, but AMMO? i have a better chance with my knife, than tryin to retrieve/wait for a care package with AMMO so gay!!!!!

even if ammo was a -1 killstreak meaning "you die you get ammo care package!" people still wouldn't take that **** i mean come on AMMO!!!!

your tone is not ok. your point is, though. There are plenty of better rewards imaginable, that still fit the "least attractive" category.

nice idea, should we now be in beta and should the game be scheduled for a 2011 release.

Actually ammo can become quite useful. I get another piece of equipment and because i got more ammo i managed to get my highest streak of the game with my PSG1 before. Again it is all a matter of opinion and timing. The care package is a gamble, if it wasn't there would be little use for the napalm strike option instead.

Maybe you should get ammo with every care package as a bonus on top of a cool killsteak reward?

Most of the people that stay alive for prolonged periods of time would run scavenger anyway wouldn't they?

In almost every team based match I play in, the shout "Has anyone got their Hardline Pro on" goes out. The perk is a winner IMO. I think they throw ammo in there sometimes as a wind up. It's like the bad guy in every soap opera. Hardly anyone likes them but they are a;ways there...

ammo wasn't a problem before.......but i think its gay now considering they lowered the successrate........im only hating on ammo cause its like they lowreed your successrate, but raised the SHITTY rate times 10

the other day i got 5 ammo crates......................i mean every care package i got was AMMO and even someone else had a care package and when i ran by it, it was AMMO thats 6 ammo crates........and im a ok player, i get 1 package every game, and 3-4 if im on fire....

thats alot of ******* ammo and thats STUPID

its like treyarch is saying "if you go care packge you must go HARDLINE" fawk that, why should we have too, we should be able to go scavanger or something without having to wrory "IS IT AMMO I HOPE NOT I HOPE NOT I HOPE NOT"

so stupid...............

your sniping comment makes sense but.........your not tryin to see what im saying......

if i say im goign toe to toe with someone and i don't reload i pick up another gun, that means i go and HUNT i run around and i like to PWNED

thatts how 1st person shooters should be played.....thats why (random comment) people complain about bringing back quick scope, cause it takes more skill to quick scope, and you can still be in the game runnin and gunnin.... it takes skill to think faster, to react, to read the other person.......example!!!!!!!!!!!

this has happen to me alot

i kill a guy with mac10 the thing has 20 bullets its damage is gay so after 1 kill you have like 10 bullets left, after next kill 0

so this happens, i kill a guy, i kill a guy, i know more are in the area some how so i take the guys gun i killed, bam KILL another guy, that guns low, take next persons gun, bam 1 or 2 more guys show i kill them........ once its clear, i reload everything make sure im good..........

on top of that, thats a care packge? (just thought of this) AFTER ALL THAT WORK YOU DID THE THING SAYS (ammo) i just killed 5 guys when i needed fawking ammo, and now i GET AMMO and i did all that work and i get AMMO!!!!!!!!!! WTF MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!......................in your situation your not trying, you just sit there, behind your 5-6 other teammates, waiting chillin, probably drinking your soda with your other hand, reading a book until someone runs by your crosshairs BAM, you wait again.........probably using ghost with a supressor i derno, i don't use psg1.... but anywho, in your case yea ammos ok cause you didn'tjust almost get ganged raped by 5 guys rushing you......

another motion sense O_o ammo does that....awesome lol

did'nt know that.......

imma put a post about this but....why do yall like motion sensors?

i think it sucks.....its radius is small, and you only see the dot when the circle spreads out which takes 1-2 seconds, and it doesn't show the red dot moving, it just shows where it was...and to me motion sense just lets you know "your gonna die in 2 seconds which is already up BYE BYE"

dorkster81 wrote:

 

another motion sense O_o ammo does that....awesome lol

did'nt know that.......

imma put a post about this but....why do yall like motion sensors?

i think it sucks.....its radius is small, and you only see the dot when the circle spreads out which takes 1-2 seconds, and it doesn't show the red dot moving, it just shows where it was...and to me motion sense just lets you know "your gonna die in 2 seconds which is already up BYE BYE"

Motion sensors used cleverly can give you some counter towards the Ghost perk. They are also very useful for defending an objective in game types like HQ for example...

On top of that you can use them as a decoy i.e. place them upstairs in a building when you see a couple of guys are using Hacker Pro to pull the in like moths to a flame...

I place them on top of or next to the HQ target when I am close by it. They very often draw fire from opponents which distracts them and gives their location away to any team mate in the area...

Also you can warn the team mate that is guarding a particular entrance to a room of incoming even if you have been smoked out...

Motion sensors can see through walls and are essentially a local radar that CAN see ghosts...

The only way to avoid detection by a motion sensor is by running Hacker Pro...

I hope that helps you see some use for them  

Used properly they will get you more kills and save your life more times than a Claymore (my equipment choice for non objective game types)...

Jus_call_me_J wrote:

 

I won't disect your whole statement as I can't really be bothered. But i will say that there are kids running around with L9's in every match I play in. Are they ghosting in the long grass and hardscoping? I hear you ask. Well no of course not, they are running around with them as if they are a Shotty or an SMG doing the BOps version of a quickscope...

Also your flip question about having an equal measure debate is redundant, rude and condescending...

Yes it may have been but i just don't think the man is looking hard enough for the answers he requires himself and isn't listening as much as he could to the answers being provided. Maybe i over stepped the mark, if i did i appologise. I don't mean to cause offence and will edit my previous post, can't say fairer then that.

To be honest i still come across very few other sniper rifles in game, we may play in different realities if you come across them because i really don't and i'm quite particular with my set-ups. And i am the one actually sniping as it happens, rifle used as intended 

Also motion sensors are very useful spotters for true snipers 

dorkster81 wrote:

 

i like how you try to sound smart, while talking about a video game, to someone you hardly know who is bothering you

dude and quick scoping isn't the same
theres videos on you tube proving such, and i mean instructional videos ....ha.... sorry think its funny instructional sniping vids X_x

anywho, so, when you aim without SCOPE, you can still hit where the hip crosshairs are, but once you scope, your scope crosshair is off..........thus slows down your quick scoping cause you have to drag your crosshair over your target.....it adds more time for someone to just point and shoot at you.....

and i see a couple guys tryin to quick scope, i myself love to try and quick scope.......but even when i hardscope, the **** doesn't register.......you can be right on the guy, 3rd scoped in, you can see the details of the computer art of the guy your aiming at, and when you fire, no register........

but i see people laying in grass, alot! with ghost mang...lol espically in big maps, in small maps you can't really sit and snipe, cause you get busted hella quick and usually the guys you shoot, put a target on you cause they want revenge >=]

Dork if that is aimed at me then please let me know so I can point out some of the flaws in your so eloquently put response?

dorkster81 wrote:

 

omg your an *******, sorry =]

um, 1 scout doesn't help you aim faster, you just get bigger lungs
and you can switch to your pistol/launcher faster.................gay

anywho, carepackage was fine before, btw respawn mishinima did a study on CARE PACKAGES before the fawked with it........

they joined ground war, and he had lik 7 of his friends team up with him, so it was him and 7 friends in ground war, they all got hardline pro and care packages....and he didn't fire 1 bullet infact he just stayed in spawn all game waiting, what his friends did was everytime they got a care package they would drop it in spawn for HIM to open and since he had hardline pro he would change each package if it was gay

he got like over 20 different killstreaks from all the package.....he got 1 chopper gunner

he got like 2 naplams, 1 bomber
he got like 3 motrers, he got a couple spy planes......

but no dogs, no hind, 1 black bird...i think.....no cobra..... i mean he even talks about it while he plays saying that care package + hardline doesn't really give you good things as often as you like...

now they changed it and its even worst!??!?!!??! thats stupid...

but also im not complaning about care package not giving me GOOD ****, but i rather it be usefull, i wouldn't be mad if one day i got 2000 spy planes, at least i get some bonus points for it, and it can be help ful............mabye lol

but ammo is useless..........and you don't get points for opening it..... and i shouldn't have to go hardline PRO just to have a lil better successrate of gettin a spy plane or something....

they should at least make it wehre care package only go 5 and up kill streaks, and hell who cares if its a sentry gun 20 times in a row, i mean its work to get 5 kills and up. espically on these small maps.

killstreaks to me though aren't just there to make the game easier, its a way of giving you a reward saying "your doing good homie keep it up"

Simple solutions then

If you hate carepackage % drop rates either: Don't use carepackages or equip hardline pro to help.

I never said scout helped me aim faster but rather helps to aquire a target more precisely as i only snipe and scout provides the additional time needed. The pro version i believe is one of the best pro's in the game. You say it's useless when i pull out an automatic as fast as i pull out a pistol when i see you.

The reward for doing well is helping the team win (or yourself in FFA), not getting the killstreak. If the only reward for you is the killstreak then you do not care about the team and this is rather selfish.

As for percentage drop by experiment you would need a lot more to accurately identify the chances and with most surveys the more data (sample size in this case) you have, the more accurate the results become.

dude stop calling me a dork...............ha j/k anywho

but you shoudln't have to adjust perks, to kill streaks, if kill streaks is there to just help you and your team......

saying "use hardline if you hate care packages" thats like saying "if you use a chopper, cobra, or hind, use flankjacket for added protection"

i use care package cause, i like random killstreaks to pop up
spy plane awesome should help us
counter - i like this killstreak but i also hate it...haha
rc-xd, - like
sam turret - like
sentry - like etc etc all the killstreaks are usefull, ammo isn't though, and the whole study thing............STUPID

i understand what your saying you have to have like a placebo kinda test going on to really see if **** works but

come on, out of 6 care package, back to back...all ammo? and im assuming players are like me with care package, if your out running and gunning, your not gonna use your carepackage then and there your gonna go to a safe location, which i notice is SPAWN cause your team is fighting the enemy and meeting at a center point....

so what i do is i wait till i die, or i look on my radar to see if my team is hudled up and fighting away from me meaning possibily the enemy is around them...... so again why AMMO?
i mean myself and probably others wait till we die and drop care packages near spawn, so its safe to retrieve, but if its ammo......and you just died..........

lets put it this way

reasons why ammo is utterly useless...
1. guns everywhere
2. some guns you can retrieve ammo now if its the same gun
3. when retirving a package, possibily everyone waits till their back at spawn, meaning they also wait till they die, to use a care package thus your start over with new fresh ammo


why is nobody backing me up, espically when the title says hardline sucks now lol

no one agrees.....wow the cod community is brain dead then.

i don't use 2 guns cause the switch time is SLOW compared to switching to a pistol

also i like using pistol cause i run faster with it.......do you guys not know this?

i love when it says "5 .4 3 2 1 and i go to pistol and rush faster and make it to spots faster than others" saves times

and dude i don't run out of ammo and go "ok time to kill myself" you nooblar

i keep running and gunning, using everyones gun like in my first POST besides, it better to take other peoples weapons cause its a challenge (G warefare)  and besides people don't use stupid guns.....

usually when i play i can tell what guns people are shooting me with so when i kill them, i know if i should grab it or not, and if your in a heavy fire fight ANY GUNS GOOD better than whatyou got now (no ammo) lol

but even if im not in a heavy fire fight, i look around and go shopping "famas eh....mp5k eh.......aug with gernade launcher mabye.....crossbow ehhhh ak ok i'll mess with that"

ammo crates are uselses cause you don't need it!  you save time picking up a gun...........than lookin for a spot, throwing the smoke, waiting for the dam chopper to come, waiting for it to drop, waitin to open it........

not to mention you rworried someones spotted you on mini map, cause your using hardline so your a big FAT RED DOT NEXT TO THE BIG RED BOX after their radio says "ENEMY CARE PACKAGE INCOMING"....

on top fo that you open a ammo crate you get nothing....

at least with other packages you get 100+ for using it, then you get another 100 - 300 depending on the kill streak.....

also the whole "picking upa gun with random attatchments"

does red dot reflex, acog or any of these mess with you? they're design to improve your gun..... and if you don't ilke it pick up another...

extended mags, duel mags, gernade launcher etc etc these don't mess with the gun itself...so why is it a problem sometimes i bet you guys laugh like i do when you see a goofy color/tag name and attatchments like "WTH was this guy thinking?"

what i think should be done to better this game is 1 kill streak and its care package, and make it back to the old successrate, and the game will be a lil more random and fun, cause ya never know what you gonna get =D

MatadorRED wrote:

 

I really think that patching hardline pro was unnecessary, mainly because airdrop packages are the only killsstreak that can be stolen. I kill and steal enemy packages all the time, because I know that's the worst feeling in the game. I literally **** my pants when my airdrop is coming in soon and I see a red dot appear incoming.

then again, running 4/5/6 killstreaks plus hardline pro was kind of cheap, especially with an organized team + one with hardline.

Same Here!