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justinweilbach
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Sep 26, 2011 6:30 PM

the m16

So watching all the previews of mw3 I can deduce that the m16 will not be a very good gun. I think that they should just make it like the m16 in mw2. I loved that m16, it killed like the famas had a good burst rate and was not overpowered. Discuss.

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    subarufanboy
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    Sep 26, 2011 6:44 PM (in response to justinweilbach)
    the m16

    Love the M16 in real life. Couldn't stand it in MW2. Probably won't like it in MW3. M4A1 ftw

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      nuttin2say
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      Sep 26, 2011 10:35 PM (in response to subarufanboy)
      the m16

      Agreed with subaru .. M4 best all around AR in MW2 ... M16 is good, but the burst fire on any gun can put you in a jam. The M4 has less power but the ROF makes up for it. Why the M4 has less power in the game than the M16 is a mystery anyone is welcome to try and explain.

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        dfhfh
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        Sep 27, 2011 3:40 AM (in response to nuttin2say)
        the m16

        the tar 21, scar-h, ak-47 and the fal were alot better than the m4 in mw2 not saying it was a bad gun just pointing out that these 4 were alot better

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        callofduty_capers
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        Sep 27, 2011 9:13 PM (in response to nuttin2say)
        the m16

        nuttin2say wrote:

         

        Agreed with subaru .. M4 best all around AR in MW2 ... M16 is good, but the burst fire on any gun can put you in a jam. The M4 has less power but the ROF makes up for it. Why the M4 has less power in the game than the M16 is a mystery anyone is welcome to try and explain.

        Its because of the shortened barrel. A shorter barrel on a rifle decreases the muzzle velocity of the bullet and therefore reduces the damage that is done. This is a problem that some people view of the M4 compared to the M16 in real life. Bullpups solve this problem by being able to have a long barrel and a compact frame for easy carry. Thats why you can have compact guns like the FAMAS with the killing power of an M16.

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    thebigb59
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    Sep 27, 2011 3:42 AM (in response to justinweilbach)
    the m16

    Well it comes with age, that is why its being replaced, I hope the M416 wins the comp

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      f22pilotxx85
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      Sep 27, 2011 7:32 AM (in response to thebigb59)
      the m16

      16 = World's most bad as$ assault rifle, but COD has a way of making awesome weapons suck, the way the Baret M82A1 in MW2 was esencially a paintball gun, when the real thing can penetrate a tank's armor.

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        thebigb59
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        Sep 27, 2011 7:33 AM (in response to f22pilotxx85)
        the m16

        M16 and bad ass gun doesn't come to mind, the M4A1 is better

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          f22pilotxx85
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          Sep 27, 2011 7:37 AM (in response to thebigb59)
          the m16

          The M4A1 is a compact verson of the M16, so pretty much they are the same gun.  If you are talking about the COD verson of the gun then I can understand that.

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            thebigb59
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            Sep 27, 2011 8:11 AM (in response to f22pilotxx85)
            the m16

            COD version for some reason is more powerful than the M16A4, which makes no sense was all

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              songinsilence
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              Sep 27, 2011 8:14 AM (in response to thebigb59)
              the m16

              Well, if it is worth discussing real world physics in a game forum, the longer barrel of an m16 versus and m4 would result in higher muzzle velocity. 5.56 rounds tend to fragment at close range but once their velocity drops below a certain point they tend to not have the same fragmentation effect, which significantly reduces their wounding ability.

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                thebigb59
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                Sep 27, 2011 8:16 AM (in response to songinsilence)
                the m16

                That because the M4A1 is a carbine?

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                  f22pilotxx85
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                  Sep 27, 2011 8:24 AM (in response to thebigb59)
                  the m16

                  Carbine pretty much means rifle.

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                    songinsilence
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                    Sep 27, 2011 8:39 AM (in response to f22pilotxx85)
                    the m16

                    The m16 has about a 20 inch barrel, while the m4 has about 14.5. Within certain limits, a longer barrel will translate into a faster round. Think of sitting in a car. From a stop, floor it for 4 seconds and then let off the gas. You will be going faster than if you let off the gas at 2 seconds.

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                      f22pilotxx85
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                      Sep 27, 2011 8:44 AM (in response to songinsilence)
                      the m16

                      And a longer barel will have more rifleings, making the butlet spin more, so it wil be acurate at longer distances.

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                        electrotank13
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                        Sep 27, 2011 2:41 PM (in response to f22pilotxx85)
                        the m16

                        ummm not very true but true at the same time there are many types of barrels some are chrome, stainless, and many more (in my oppinion the chrome ones are the best cause they are very smooth lined and easy to clean) but there are also "twists"  like 1:15 1:12 and what that means is one complete spin in the barrel every 12 or 15 inches last it all depends on what caliber the gun is too that is a little more complated

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      truefalseworld
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      Sep 27, 2011 9:25 PM (in response to thebigb59)
      the m16

      CM901 ftw. Colt has been supplying our Nation's rifles for 50 years. Why stop now? Sure, politically we didn't win Vietnam but if you look at those numbers, we killed a lot more of them than they did of us!

       

      Ahem I'm getting off topic. The M16 looks much better (literally, I'm speaking of appearance) than that dreadful contraption in MW2. I think the problem the OP is noticing is that Stopping Power no longer exists and it's not a point-click weapon. It still has its uses, I'm sure of it. It just isn't as simple to use anymore.

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    sinlessviper
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    Sep 27, 2011 8:06 AM (in response to justinweilbach)
    the m16

    Only reason i dont like the M16 currently is the ROF 3 burst fire... isnt it interchangeable in real? 1 shot, 3 and full auto?

     

    id love to see the british armys mk2 SA80 in the game

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    rkflawlesszz
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    Sep 27, 2011 8:45 AM (in response to justinweilbach)
    the m16

    Gun is good in all COD's, but the rate of fire in MW3 is slow freaking slow, I used it at COD XP. The hits to kill was similar to M16 in Black Ops.

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    rankismet
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    Sep 27, 2011 9:00 PM (in response to justinweilbach)
    the m16

    The M16 is a weapon of finesse... if you don't like it... you need to give it time.

     

    The M4 is to beer like an M16 is to Lambic.

     

    angry smiley #225

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    corrosiveguy
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    Sep 27, 2011 9:07 PM (in response to justinweilbach)
    the m16

    The M16 has always been one of my favorite guns, I hope they didnt nerf it to bad.. Hopefully not like Black Ops where it takes 3-4 bursts which would equal 12 rounds to kill someone

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    bammoff
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    Sep 28, 2011 6:45 AM (in response to justinweilbach)
    the m16

    I agree. All of the guns obviously cant be replicas of their real life counter part. but its still dissapointing to get those hit markers with the 50cal and fire 4, 3 burst from an m16 and get hitmarkers. I havent seen anything on the MW3 M16, So i cant judge based on that, but from the old games, eh, it was alright, not my favorite.

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