Jan 6, 2012 3:17 AM
About a great player and the F. akimbo weapons
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The problem is many players are using human aimbots that pick out inbound enemies through walls. So it doesn't matter how much they nerf a weapon, the cheat makes them awsome because it turns them to inbound enemies spotting them through walls and has impeccable aim. I can easily see that every enemy he encounters is a perfect flick, nudge or snap to the target. So more than likely this is a cheater & not a real weapon problem in the game.
Well, I don’t know what a “human aimbot” is, but I must assure you that incredibleorb is a legit player. You can watch him live and see for yourself. He is steaming on twitch tv, but will probably move to youtube since he’s become a machinima partner. I use to have flawless aim in mw2, and was called cheater almost every game, but I digress.
“not a real weapon problem in the game” - AAAAA, come on!!! I’m a mediocre mw3 player, so I don’t get moabs, but if I use akimbo fmg9 + steady aim, I get specialist bonus after specialist bonus. I’m not using this no skill setup anymore, because it’s no fun and I don’t want to be an *******. Consequently I’m killed almost exclusively by F. akimbo users.
Well i see what i see, I'm not only talking about the great aim he has when he deals with 2 or more enemies at once. It's also how many times he changes direction & the enemy is dead center screen. I'm not going to start pointing out all the things i see on this clip. But for me it's more than suspect looking when someone keeps turning & stopping on a dime in direct line of his enemies before they become out from an object, or as soon as he rounds a corner & takes a glance the glance is directly at the enemies position (what luck). He rarely finds an enemy anywhere aside from extremely close to his crosshairs, he never gets caught off gaurd from enemies moving in who are not on uav, and ends up with a 36-0. Your sure he's 100% legit? I doubt it.
Well, my point was mostly about the akimbo, not the incredibleorb. He is just one of the best, if not the best, mw3 pc player out there. Watch him more, and you'll see why.
"when someone keeps turning & stopping on a dime in direct line of his enemies before they become out from an object" After many many hours of playing, and with some talent, anyone can do that.
Huh, when that happens on console we call that skill...playing like a total ***** but still using skill as far as aim is concerned.
I watched that clip closely; and I don't think he's haxing.
he looked to be playing chicken sh1t to prove his point.
remember he's playing TDM; and the only object is to kill the most enemies.
you see him pretty much camping the middle of the map, looking in "known lanes of traffic" .
and the sad point of the whole show is that if you walk out in to the akimbo FMG9's you're dead. (period)
I play HC objective based games; and usually pack a scar, or arc, (hell i would still pack a MP44 if it was in the game; I did all through COD4 ...lol).and run silent so they don't hear me coming, and invisible (blind eye assassin pro.)
but every now and then i run in to some one running this kit; and it is quite frustrating.
at that point i usually trade range for an mp90, just so i can try to keep up.
but that changes the pace of the game to a point i would rather not play.
if it's just one person or two, I will continue playing stealth, and boobie traps help I.E. bettys, IMS etc...
but if it's an entire team of ppsh wheelders i'll just move on to another group.
but when i was younger, and more apt to run'n'gun i would just trade my pistol for a ppsh laying on the ground. ![]()
bottom line it is what it is.
I understand what your saying because i play the same way.
I pick a spot, keep making u-turns, use sound & uav the best i can to guide me and pwn enemies on the small maps. But the difference is everytime I glance down the known lanes of traffic and an enemy is downfield I don't always stare almost exactly where the enemy is standing like this guy does, Add that to the perfect nudging to each enemy on his double kills & that 36-0 score, leaves me under suspicion that this is a cheat that turned, spun & nudged him 36 times to catch every enemy headed in bound to his location. It sure looks that way.
depends on whether that's the luckiest game he's ever had (might be why he's so proud of it) or if that happens all day long.
if that was "one" unbelievable game, I'll give it to him; if that happened twice, I would be suspicious.
I've had a game or two in my life, that seemed like every one just pulls out in front of my sights. (and yeah i alway screen shot those ![]()
You can label it as the luckiest game he's ever played if you want,
I'll be more realistic and leave it as very suspicious - most likely an aim cheat.
(he picks off 36 enemies with no drama, no last second encounters, he's always facing them seconds before they get to him)
I find it highly unlikely this is a realistic outcome without the aid of a cheat. But I guess you know better?
I never LABELED it anything (read what I write; not in to it)
And I never said I wouldn't take notice of some one like that.
All I said was I wouldn't jump to conclusions.
I watched it twice and just don't see it.
but I would definitely take notice of something like that.
Maybe (take notice of the word "maybe") he's the best Cheater I've ever seen.
but if he where; even the best liar get's caught up in their lies sooner or later.
I don't know if You're from the United States or not; but some of us still believe in "innocence until proven guilty"
That's all I'm saying; no more no less ![]()
You say you don't see it, but what is it your looking to see? I look for things like we see at 1:12 where last second before he gets to the doorway he nudges to his right & the enemy pops out like he was just targeted through the wall. Then I compare it to the same kind of scenario like at 3:02 where he just walks straight out without nudging to his right & again It's the right choice and the enemies are straight ahead this time. When do you say guilty? For you it still may be his luckiest game ever. For me the more & more I watch it the more it looks like an aim cheat targeting in bound enemies.
You should watch him get moab after moab with his regular guns in FFA, which is his thing. To get a moab with the troll guns isn't an accomplishment for him. It may be hard to believe, but there are players with extremely high k/d even in this hectic and not so smart game.
I dont think he is hacking, my gameplay looks like this. Watch the mini map to figure out the spawns, then keep pre aiming the corners that are the most likely spots they are coming from, simple. He just has an amazing lag comp advantage. Go back and watch his COD4 vids, he's really good, but he takes a lot of hits (like normal), but people rarely even fire at him in MW3.
The best player on mw3 doesn't use akimbo.
Of course he doesn't use the troll guns, as he likes to call them, on regular bases. He just played with them a little after the patch that was supposed to nerf them. His trademark guns are the silenced mp7 with rapid fire and mp9 with extended mags.
I agree with 2Sloppy:/
I agree with both of you.
Have you people lost it? You know it’s not debatable if Orb is cheating or not, it’s verifiable. He’s streaming on daily basis on his twitch account, he has tons of footage there, has a lot on youtube, he was and still is a beast in CS 1.6 and a top FPS player in general.
But what can I say? Maybe it was a good decision to dumb down COD. After all, people that buy it don’t seem to be very bright.
I can purchase the same cheat, live stream all my play & pretend it's my skill to. Unless you played with this guy in the same room, you don't "know" nothing. You can not detect an aimbot by staring at someones monitor, you can either notice how the cheat nudges & snaps the user to the enemies or you don't.
Do i need to create a new steam account buy 2nd copy of the game and buy the cheat to prove to you that suddenly I can play exactly like your friend targeting all inbound enemies with the greatest of luck & ease & stream it live every week?
His live stream doesn't prove anything (other than he's starving for attention when he plays a video game?) Idk, but it doesn't prove this isn't a cheat.
You convinced me! He’s got ~8500 subs, ~420000 views and machinima partnership on his youtube channel by cheating. Daily ~ 2000 people watch him live, and many more afterwards on his twitch channel, just because they love to see a good cheater in action. He is cheating not only in FPS games, but also when he’s playing Diablo 2 or Starcraft 2, because he can’t help himself. Anyone can do it and make a living out of it, you just have to buy a proper hack! For you, I have this.
Effffing cheaters are everywhere!!! I can’t kill them with my akimbo fmg9-ers, what should I do???!!??!?!?!?!?!?!!!
Later edit:
But why should you buy second steam account for cheating? Orb’s account wasn’t banned and will never be banned! Effing cheater! He also has a steam group with ~ 1200 members, for people that want to play with him.
And I’m not his friend, I’m just a subscriber of this effing cheater.
i'll play him a lan match. so will my wife. We'll supply an identicle rig to his, a brand new game & steam account for all of us so no one can be accused of cheating.
I can clearly see the aimcheat.
Let me know if this guy wants to play a lan match. Let's see him show off this talent live to me & my wife. guarantee we can never get that to happen because he's a fake.
WOOOHOOOO BULLCRAPS BACK WOOOHOOO WITH HIS EVERY CHEATS AND I WILL BEAT ANYONE ATTITUDE.
Seriously though this guy is not cheating and anyone who think's he is need's to give up gaming.
There is no way he would have the amount of subscribers or be a Machinima partner if he was cheating, and not only that but why would someone who is cheating do live stream's seriously.
“i'll play him a lan match. so will my wife” - Is this a Monty Python reference? I doubt that, but anyway I’m sure he will play with you a lan game if you pay him enough. After all, he’s making a living out of it. He did accept Fwiz challenge for free, but you’re not a machinima star, aren’t you?
“I can clearly see the aimcheat.” Of course he is!!! He was showing his barracks during a livestream, and his accuracy is ~20%. Pretty lame for an aimboter, but it does the job! Nic ehack!!!!
“Let me know if this guy wants to play a lan match” – Of course I will, but wait, I’M NOT HIS F. FRIEND, just one of his 8500 youtube subscribers!!! Would you like a match with Sandy Ravage instead, you delusion of grandeur guy? After all, I’m also a Sandy Ravage subscriber.
What makes you think a steam account I create to cheat with (to show you how legit the aimbot looks) will ever get banned? It won't.
So you think it's immpossible to fool 8500 people on the net with a cheat? I don't.
You can tell him i'll pay him to play lan also. The big internet star that he is.
I have a friend that hires guys like Derek Jeter to come to his private parties, who is this kid your pumping up like he's somebody, who should get payed to play? A nobody to everybody but 8500 people? Wow what an accomplishment. Does he want Jeters rates to show up? lol
He is a cheater who gets moab after moab by using his nic ehack!!! But some of you are really dense or out right insane.
You sound like every ******* who accused me of cheating on numerous servers when I played PC. I have never and will never hack a game in my life. Good stats should and ought to be earned not hacked, and people need to accept that most of us are at best only going to ever be "good" at games. Seriously stop acting like you know what your talking about when clearly your paranoid that the world is coming to an end because somebody is *gasp* better than you. People who act like this are disgusting and a continued toxin among the gaming community. Bottom line
HE IS NOT HACKING. I HAVE SEEN HACKERS. THIS GUY DOES NOT HACK. Until you've gone back and played WaW on the 360 you don't know hacking.
However, if anyone needs to be convinced after seeing this the FMG still needs a nerf I can only say GG FNG GG.
Should & ought? really?
That's a nice speech but the simple fact is there are cheaters.
If you can't tell this guy is 1 step down from a full auto aimbot flicking in the direction of every incoming enemy that's your problem...the only difference is that he's not firing bullets as soon as the aimbot targets the enemy thru walls, objects, land, But uav or not he always jerks in the direction of where the next enemy comes from then throws in some real mouse movements to make it look somewhat real.. Total fake BS...
Lol you still offering to play people in a lan match at a crappy Mariot hotel and offering $10K when they beat you.
You must be quite lonely never going outside because you think everyone cheats, including the guy who beat you in a 100m sprint in high school lol.
They haven't been patched on the PC yet to answer your question (still). Just the consoles got that patch. And this "great" player is on the good side of lag compensation. When youre on the bad, you die on the very first hit marker you receive which is usually the first shot the enemy takes (from your perspective). Notice how hardly anyone actually shoots at him, its because the other players are compensated. The other great PC MOAB youtuber (TBNRfrags or something) has the same advantage. It makes the game really easy with any gun when you have .5 sec advantage.
It was unfortunate to introduce the Orb with this FMG9 moab, it was just to make a point. Lag compensation is horrible, I know. I ragequit when I get a little too many instant deaths. (not 0.5 s, but it doesn’t have to be that huge to make this game unplayable). But watch his twitch stream, and see for yourself how much a beast of a player he is even in this game. And watch him play FPS games that don’t have lag compensation, like this.
And btw, he is streaming right now!!!
And don't forget, Nic ehack, nic ehack!!!
Well this Orb made a mistake, Some pro gamer. I guess he needs to read afflictedmed's post to find out why the guns still aren't nerfed?
I wouldn't watch his channel, he obviously rants about things he knows nothing about and is putting down a game I like due to his lack of knowledge.
IMO The weapons are fine, Larger maps might be fun, It's the cheaters I can do without.
Yes, the most retarded COD deserves the most retarded weapons. In this sense, the akimbo weapons are just perfect. No ADS, accurate with steady aim and twice as powerful. The way of the retarded!
The way of the retarded? troll guns? you & your buddy have some issues. It's 1 loadout in the game...i don't see this as such an issue as you & him make it out to be. Do you get 36-0 when you use these weapons?
If he's so good why does it even bother him? What's the matter he can't take getting killed by 1 or 2 (probably mediocre) players who are using akimbo a few times during a round without his ego getting bashed?
seriously... i don't find this to be an issue unless your some maniac who can't take getting killed by the few guys using it. It's part of the game. I guess the game has to cater to his need to be running around with a sniper rifle owning everyone wih 1 shot qs kills (like that's realistic) Is that what he's after? The guy sound like a crybaby...& his play looks like a cheat.
"you & your buddy" - Why, why should I bother anymore?
this f-ing weapon is op and lame... fix infinity ward/sledgehammer
and the spawns...the lag compensation...the knive...the glitches...and better sniper and snd maps would be wonderful...