Apr 24, 2012 4:16 PM
MW3, where even the worst of players are rewarded for being BAD.
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I love the Call of Duty franchise. I was there when Soap survived his first mission( racing out of the ship as it sank and barely making it out of alive.) I was there when the first players entered the online battlefield and dawned their ghillie suits. Good times, bad times, funny times, and those embarassing moments.
But now we have entered a dark age, where even the absolute worst player can score something as awesome as a juggernaut or a stealth bomber without even getting 2 kills without dying. It seems that Activision has taken the philosophy they adopted in World of Warcraft(you know, that "I'm terrible at this game but i should still get cool stuff anyway") approach. Then to add insult to injury, They made these 2 of my favorite killstreaks exclusive to support, meaning that if you play like you have any semblence of skill at all, you will never get to use these 2 rewards unless you go against everything you believe and go with this very underhanded killstreak perk.
And you may laugh but heres what myself and the majority of the population think when we see some guy running around with a shotgun+range perk and a support streak package. You are telling us as an idividual that you can neither aim nor get more than 2 kills without dying. yet you do this and then brag during intermission lobbies about your 35 kills and 40 death score and how awesome your 2 stealth bombers were. But I guess activision has the right idea from a financial standpoint. Keep tricking you into thinking you are good at this game by giving you positive reinforcement with unearned killstreak rewards so you dont get frustrated and realize that you are wasting your money on monthly subs(if your an xbox live member).
There is some good news though, black ops 2 will no longer have final stand, and instead of recovering from narrowly escaping death while running around wiht a shotgun, you will inevitibly bleed out from injury, not recover full health by hiding in a corner somewhere.
let say you suck at this game and there are no support kill streak. how would you feel?
let' say your good at this game and someone of much lesser talent who hasn't a single gun kill Jihads with deadman's hand and kills you from 30ft away. How would you feel?
Hate to disagree, but being as this is a game, the way the game runs pisses me off way more than any support/death streaks could. In addition, for all those who ***** about the noobs getting handed ****, if it wasn't for the noobs, I'm betting that Reaper/AC-130 would be a mite bit tougher to achieve. You love killing the noobs and scoring your high kill streaks, but if someone who you have been stompping into the dirt kills you with DMH 2 off from your MOAB, we're supposed to pity you? Soz, hoss, I'll save my pity for the guy who just died 6+ times w/o getting a kill.
I think this game burdens to both sides equally. I just wanted to point out that deathstreaks strongly favor those who aren't very good
Agree there. Personally, I think a death streak should be non lethal. Range on DMH hands is better than any other explosive.
yea i dont really care about the support killstreaks but the deathstreaks do tick me off a bit. Final stand is annoying when you should normally kill that person but he just drops down instead. But dead mans hand takes the cake. Every other explosive in the game is super weak but they give that particular deathstreak danger close pro it seems. So many buzzkills because of this
That's Trollfinity Ward for you....rewarding bad play since MW2. ![]()
I agree on the Death Streaks 100% they are way to dam annoying! if infinity ward would just get rid of dead mans hand it would be doing everyone a favor!
I swear some people on here will only be happy when then they can 30-0 every game. It is annoying when someone goes into Final Stand or gets Dead Man Hand but they will suffer for 90% of the game. If you make this game only for the good players and the noobs stop playing don't come on here saying the game is too hard and you can't get your reaper any more beacuse everyone playing is a beast......
I wish my biggest concern about the game was Death Streaks!!
Everyone started off as a noob at some point.
But back during the COD1/COD2 days, there was no such thing as deathstreaks. You improved by playing experienced players & from learning how to you attack the game.
The same with any FPS such as Battlefield, Crysis, Counter Strike etc.
Lethal deathstreaks will never improve a new player. It's there to give them a couple of cheap kills & hurt those who have been playing COD for years.
Black Ops removed deathstreaks yet it didn't hurt sales nor did it stop new players from enjoying the game. Too assist those who were new to COD, Combat Training in Black Ops was there to help players improve so it's a better alternative to lethal deathstreaks.
I wish my biggest concern about the game was Death Streaks!!
My biggest concern in NOT Deathstreaks. Connection, Spawns & Matchmaking are my main concerns of MW3.
Who cares if you get klilled by Dead Mans Hand. That poor sap has died 6 times to get a couple of kills. I have been killed around 20-30 times out of 10k by Dead Mans Hand. I really don't see the fuss. People will go 40 -2 and the 2 will be by a death streak yet you still complain. Do you know how many players would love to get that sort of ratio!! In fact wouldn't you just get bored going 40-0 for very game... Save your all your complaints for Lag, death streaks are not going to savage your stats. It may stopp you getting a MOAB but if your a player who is getting close to getting a MOAB regulary yoiu are already winning at this game, it seems you just want to be greedy and win even more.....
Never said I was a good player nor do I care much about my stats.
I'm an average player at best. I do well in some but I have plenty of bad games whether it's lag or just getting outplayed by someone who's better than me. I've only gone flawless once & only achieved 1 MOAB (don't go for it these days)
I don't believe that the better player in the gunfight should die to a "nuke" blast or fall on his ass with a primary weapon just because I'm having a bad game.
Deathstreaks like Juiced, Revenge, Hollow Points, Copycat (from MW2)...hell even Martyrdom are balanced deathstreaks. However Final Stand & Dead Man's Hand are not.
I was once a terrible player in COD1, COD2 & COD4. I improved by playing against better players and learning from them.
Am I asking for the removal of deathstreaks??...no. Just asking for tweaks to reduce the Dead Man's Hand blast radius and tweak Final Stand so the player who puts the opposing player in Final Stand get's the full kill rather than the teammate.
Not really much to ask for
Agreed, the death streaks are very annoying, especially DMH, but easily what's killed me most is the lag/lag compensation. And revenge spwans of course.
When I use the support strike package, I do so in order to "support" our team. My that, I mean throwing down Ballistic Vests, Tagging with the Recon Drone, and sharing care packages via Escort Airdrop. I hope I'm not considered a noob for that.
I can agree with how people use support as the "poor man's assault package" via Stealth Bombers, Remote sentries, and Recon Juggernauts. When you use the Assault based rewards, it kinda defeats the purpose of the "Support" role. But then again, I don't get extremely frustrated by it.
Also, I believe that Deathstreaks are the rewards given for being bad. Proof of that--you have to die multiple times in a row.
~RUGGED SAVIOR
The support streaks i use are A) (UMP) UAV, B. Vests, Sam Turret and my other is my sniper which has: UAV, CUAV, Sam turret... no i don't quickscope ![]()
I just don't die enough by DMH for it even to considred removing. Final stand is annoying and you will get that afew times in a game. My KD is only 1.1 and when I have tried running with DMH i rarely get the chance to use it and even when I have it's very rare it's killed anyone.
Just so many things above DMH that need looking at in this game. I couldn't care if Death Streaks are in the next COD or not. I just want a smooth running game.
Just so many things above DMH that need looking at in this game. I couldn't care if Death Streaks are in the next COD or not. I just want a smooth running game.
Trust me, I want a smooth game. ![]()
But after 13 or so title updates, it really isn't getting better.
Again, deathstreaks isn't my top concern. I'm just basing my opinion on why I don't believe it belongs in a FPS.
I don't like death streaks.. Even if I am the one who is going to finish 4-29 (lag, or my own fault regardless)
But having said that, not all players who are on deathstreaks are bad... sometimes they are just doing bad (this could not be said as much in MW2, but in MW3 we have all had games where we are a 1/2 second behind the action)
The only DS i consider helpful in making a better player is Copycat... that really helped me in my early days of mw2 (1st cod), as i saw what other people ran as classes, then developed my own.