You have no idea whats going on. Your a complete noob if you think there are any OP guns at this point. The guns are balanced. Nothing needs to be touched. Other than a sleight buff on the spaz and pm9

Or instead of nerfing those guns they should just buff all the guns that are their weapon classes. That way no one changes to another gun and starts over using it.

MK14 OP? Ever try to use one on the bad end of lag? MK14 is fine. PP90.....

As they were in Modern Warfare 2, the weapons in Modern Warfare 3 are balanced. I think you're confusing weapons that outclass their tier with "overpowered" weapons. Each weapon has a trade-off. The PP90M1 benefits from Rapid Fire and Extended Mags via the Attachments Proficiency. The MK14 - for example - is a semi-auto weapon; precision is key when using it. The P90 has remained since Call of Duty 4. It's magazine size doesn't valify it to be deemed "overpowered".

you are retarted. stop crying for nerfs, learn to play or get of this forum now and get some other game

Nothing is over powered! You just sound upset @ being owned!

This reminds me of the post where the Guy was bitching about people spamming their triggers.

How can so many different weapons be over powered?  Surely by definition only one or two can be?  None of the weapons in MW3 are over powered in my opinion, look at the Famas in Black Ops to see an over powered weapon - everybody uses it.  In MW3 there is a wide variety of gun usage which to me indicates they are fairly well balanced.

You mentioned 3 sub machine guns as OP, surely that in its own present some degree of balance as there is only maybe 5/6 SMG's in the first place. The first two potentially seen as the worst but still pretty damn good if stick rapid fire on

Mk14 is certainly not OP....why....semi auto

How about leaving all guns the way they are without nerfing/buffing them just because you say so. As i keep saying....if the gun is that good,get even by using it yourself.

I leave the forum and come back to the same old bickering. The weapons are fine, either get better at the game, fix your lag, or play a different game.

Silly kids, crying isnt going to help. Its like OMG wth i got killed by a pistol, all pistols are way overpowered!!!!

There are millions of people playing this game and on top of that you have good matches and horrible ones, it happens.

I’m still getting fmgs hate mail. While I do agree that they should remove akimbo ability on machine pistols for better balance cqb & better secondary balance (pistols would get used more if they were the only secondaries that had akimbo), there is no way I’m not using the best secondary cqb, when it swaps that fast after the first swap. Weapon balance overall is just not that great. Though I don’t cry about it as I can use / abuse these “op” guns too. I would change a lot to get a better balanced & more "skill" based shooter.

As you can see acrs overall recoil & accuracy is lower without kick than that of the 47 and cm901 with. Kick ruins weapons balance, but it also helps the 47, cm901, pm9, mp5, ump & p90 compete, regardless though their standard kick / recoil should just be 10 to 20 % lower. While the rest are fine without kick, basically kick makes a lot of gun too easy to use. Who in his right mind would use the cm901 above the acr?

Even without kick the mp7 and acr should get more recoil. The mp7 should get the RF upper kick increase built in, the acr should get a similar stronger upwards kick (around 60 up).

with RF its recoil pattern is just this…. Compared to what the mp5 is like with kick & RF atm

A joke obviously. The overall damage and fire rates stats seems fine, bar for the pp90 with RF, it shouldn’t fire 32 % faster, make that 16 %. The 47 and cm901 should also get their fire rates increased by around 15 % to 25 % imo, at least make them fire faster than the acr.

Remove kick on ars / smgs. Improve recoil kicks on the 47, cm901, pm9, mp5k, m16, ump and p90 as a standard by say 10-20 % give or take (recenterspeed included). Only give kick to lmgs and shotguns & bolt action sniper rifles. Kick on semi-auto snipers is incredibly annoying. They can just spray ohks down in the same pattern constantly.

All this obviously doesn’t matter if you have Lag / lag comp on your side. You will get beaten by a pistol with the mp7, when shooting marshmallows or when shooting with delay.

this thread is just a huge fail.