Yea, I know the Olimar move as well, I'm always tossing my pikman everywhere though so I dont do it.

When I was at the tourny I talked about, each of us could play 2 matches to warm up (3 lifes, no items, Final Destination only) and there was this one guy doing the MK invincible move. After the moderator of the tourny saw this, he banned that move, the Olimar move, and chain grabbing. Needless to say, this guy do the invinicble move was eliminated first round.

The custom stages is why I love playing SSBB with 4 people on one screen. I have another stage where the only strips of land are 4 isolated platforms speaced out across the playing field. You have to jump to get to other platforms (and people) and if you fall, you die (unless you have a high jumping character like Sonic or a flying character like Kirby). I always turn the smash ball on for this stage because people will kill themselves to try to hit it.

I bow to a player superior to myself -bows-