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dakingofcash Apprentice 536 posts since
Jul 22, 2012

What do you guys think of a Melee Battle Sequence for BO2 Zombies?

Posted by dakingofcash on Aug 12, 2012 10:18 PM

A lot of times in 4 player Co-op I find myself frustrated by only have one zombie to kill and having to wait for more zombies to make Rtrains.  Instead of stabbing a zombie 10 times with a Bowie Knife, what if we could go Head-to-Head?

 

We have all seen the videos of God of War 3 where Kratos fights a HUGE monster.  You engage in a minigame where you punch in certain buttons and out pops a WICKED animation.  What if zombies did the same thing?  The programming would be much like when a dog attacks you in campaign and you can break it's neck with a correctly timed attack.  Only in my mind this is a minigame rather than an instinctive reaction where you already know which buttons to press.  Also I would want to include a two speed system, one to break free of a zombie and one with a cripple/deathly blow.

 

The system would be such that when you engage you would get a single hit marker with Jugg, and half of life for losing the minigame.  If you win you still get the single hit marker, but you are free to continue running.  I would put the separate the buttons for quick hits and heavy hits.  Then I would randomize the game, like Samantha Says, so the player has to hit the buttons in successive order.

 

Make it a gamble.  Without Jugg. you would go down if you lost the minigame.  With Jugg. you still get a second chance.  This time the zombie is going for the kill so he takes longer.  Merely for fairness, not realism.

 

To seal the deal I would put in a lurking zombie in the higher rounds, past 30-40.  This zombie lurks around corners waiting for people to come around.  He does not chase after you when spawning...unless he spawns right next to you, obviously.  He waits for you and makes you come and get him.  This encourages a sense of fear as you try and search the map for the last guy.  He could be in any corner, and if you come up behind him you get a free kill.  He will detect you when you get close enough or if you fire a weapon.  He can hear your gun fire and will wait around the nearest corner.  If he sees you he will go into a dead sprint, sorry for the pun...and chase you like a zombie dog with infinite sprint.  He will not lunge at you and let you kite him away, but rather engage in the minigame.

 

Other players can hurt him while you are engaged, and other zombies can hurt you while he is engaged.

 

For animation I would want some kind of lethal head blow as the "Finishing" maneuver.  Make it a hammer, a Tomahawk...anything that does MASSIVE head damage.  NO KNIVES!  A tomahawk is not a knife; it's an axe!  Maybe a sword, but make it take longer and add gruesome details.  Like when the soldier gets his throat slit in the beggining sequence of the WaW campaign.

 

If I messed up, or forgot something feel free to add any comments and post your ideas.

 

Happy Hunting!

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  • lightningblade52 Novice 162 posts since
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    lightningblade52     Aug 12, 2012 11:30 PM (in response to dakingofcash)

    i love the idea of a lurking zombies. I will laugh at how meny little kids can longer train kills when they turn a  corner and are attacked by a zombie they didnt see lol besides adds more the the zombies the ones we have now are kinda stagnic i mean around 50-60s geez need to amp up zombies to make it more fun

  • Bloodraye19 Apprentice 590 posts since
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    Bloodraye19     Aug 12, 2012 11:31 PM (in response to dakingofcash)

    I only read half of it cause it's way too long for just one idea.

    zombies isn't the kind of game that does animations like that, not to mention in a face paced game like CoD zombies that would take too long. while you'r doing that you would get mobbed by a dozen zombies

    • dakingofcash Apprentice 536 posts since
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      dakingofcash     Aug 13, 2012 8:57 AM (in response to Bloodraye19)

      Wow.  If you had read the rest of the post you would realize that I talked about that.  Please read again.  It make take another 20 seconds but it's worth it.

      • Bloodraye19 Apprentice 590 posts since
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        Bloodraye19     Aug 13, 2012 9:30 AM (in response to dakingofcash)

        I just noticed that i accidently put face paced, I meant fast pace.

         

        but still, it wouldn't be the same. obviously if a zombie grabs you or pins you down or whatever I doubt other zombies are just going to stand by, they'll attack you while your stuck and down you.

        • dakingofcash Apprentice 536 posts since
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          dakingofcash     Aug 13, 2012 10:45 AM (in response to Bloodraye19)

          The minigame would last less than 5 seconds.  Let it be optional for the player to engage in hand-to-hand combat, unless it's a lurker.  Perhaps have the player hold down the Square button to engage.  Maybe mash L3 and R3.  God of War 3 uses the Circle button.

           

          I want players to have an option to kill zombies with an EFFECTIVE melee attack.  This saves ammo and changes the pace.  Me personally I would not engage a regular zombies unless I was sure I had the time.

           

          Lurkers would be an anti-Rtrain zombie.  Just as players use Rtrains to herd zombies, lurkers would herd players in to certain open rooms.  If you leave, there's a chance that a lurker could be around the corner!  Obviously the lurker wouldn't be around EVERY corner.  Just enough to instill a sense of paranoia.

           

          Also, these zombies would not "grow" in health, or rather...the melee system would do away with any health bonus zombies get.  Example: One zombie left in Round 40.  Rather than wait half an hour to see if more zombies show up, you could gamble...and go head-to-head, saving precious ammo.  The result would be...instead of using 100 Rounds of RPK on one zombie, you could engage and do away with him for Free!  The more you gamble the more ammo you save!  Also this would help players feel like they are doing something out of the ordinary.

           

          In the end I want it to be harder to make Rtrains.  Let's take Kino for example.  Build Rtrains just like normal in the Theater and when no more zombies are spawning go after the lurkers.  The developers would strategize where the lurkers would spawn, possibly in certain tight rooms allowing for Rtrains in the big rooms.  In my mind the lurkers would be in the Mule Kick Room and the Dressing Room.  Give the players room between the lurkers and the Rtrain.  The lurkers should be Fun not suicide.

           

          Think about it.  I've spent the last 4-5 hours shooting zombies with nothing else to keep my attention.  Instead I can engage a zombie and see how my luck plays out.  Personally I could see people getting a HUGE thrill out of it.  If they like hitting the box, they're SURE to like chopping up a zombie!

           

          It's like an after dinner mint, something to enjoy after mowing down Rtrains.

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