Feb 26, 2012 7:50 PM
are modded controller not bannable any more
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lets see i play free for all alot and there is not a match that goes by that some kid has a mk 14 with a red dot or silencer and somehow can spray it faster then my mp7 or whatever i am using at the time ( i watch the killcams thats how i know ) with rapid fire maybe it could shot half that fast but like i said its usually silenced any way is this a bannable offense or do i need to just get over it and go buy one of my own just to even the playing field cuz lets face it that is a 2 shot gun one shot headshot and with a mod u would have to be a complete noob not to own with it
You have to consider two things:
-It is possible to have a very fast trigger finger
-Kill cams aren't perfect representations of what actually happens.
Modded controllers are bannable, but it's hard to tell who uses them.
true but i have a fast trigger finger myself and like i said without rapid fire attachment ( removes the limiters on shots fired ) its not possible to shot that fast
Hard to tell sometimes, but not impossible. I usually report them and avoid player.
It's quite simple to tell who is using them, there's a HUGE difference between someone having a "trigger finger" and using a modded controller. No one can empty an MK14/RSASS clip in the time it takes to get a few bullets off with an automatic.
This.....stop using killcams for reference....go to the theater and look for yourselves.
yes they are bannable but you like everyone else on here can't tell who does and doesn't have a modded controller
you like most of all the poeple on the forum that complain's needs to find something else to complain about instead of blaming others.
you along with others who think there is a modder in every game make yourself sound dumb coming on here.
you need to remember something, your not as good as the game as you think you are.
Also have you ever seen a video of someone doing a side by side video of someone using a modded controller? your answer is no. i know that. so you need go watch some videos and see that the difference is so small that you can't notice by eye you have to have a stop watch
so again you and everyone else that thinks there is a modder in every game you lose need to shut up and get better.
How RUDE...
You have a mod then?
now did you really remove your comment because you realized how bad it made you look?
well i guess i just have to deal with people trolling me so o well the way the world works i ask a question and my gaming ability gets question when i put up a example and yes i removed the post before geek squad over here trys to get me banned
you posting anything against the CoC would be you banning yourself not him banning you.....just try to be mature and realize that this is a public forum and if you don't want someone's opinion then don't post......not trying to be offensive just trying to be helpful.
o you are cool brother i have no beef with you i just dont understand why someone would come and purposely troll my post unless they are defending the use of a mod like he trolled another guys post for the similiar topic
Alot of people on here and everyone thinks differently.
This is basically why I left core, people are turning to such cheap tactics to keep their somewhay decent K/D. I really don't think it'd be too complex to detect a modded controller and just cap the firing rate. It's surprising to me how many people are using them now, I find it funny that I rarely see them going positive though.
Let's also consider this:
Since cheaters make up probably 25% of CoD sales if not more then they won't get banned or get their modded controllers detected and banned because chances are that AV/IW would lose them as costumers.
They want as more people as possible to keep playing so they can sell their DLC content...
Yes of course "WE" legit and honest players could simply stop playing one day when we get pissed off for good seeing that AV/IW not only don't ban and punish cheaters/glitchers/hackers/boosters but also almost listen to them by giving them a cheating arsenal (cheats, glitches, exploits, modded controllers...) just to make sure they keep playing the game but all of this is never going to demotivate the legit part of the community from playing CoD simply because (and let's face these facts):
Cheaters:
- They can't play on a even playing field because they are lazy and have no self respect and respect for others.
- They play to get the satisfaction of being rewarded in the game just like everybody else but they can't and don't wanna do it the legit way because they're not good and need to cheat so they can have an advantage over other players.
- If they lose this advantage then they will stop playing the game because they are the kind of people who aren't used to work hard for something which brings us to "WE" the honest people.
"WE":
- We play to have fun and we respect other players.
- We learn how to play the game and work hard to get better and better.
- We want a good and fair online gameplay experience and we care about offering the same to the players we play with. It's called "conscience".
- Even confronted to cheaters, we keep playing the game hoping that AV/IW will eventually punish them for their actions and also because we actually have a real interest for the game.
- In the case scenario that developpers take no actions about cheaters fearing that it might cost them profits the they don't have to fear that "WE" honest players stop playing the game because we won't. We will keep on playing the game because we're not these cowards who cheat and want everything the easy way.
- We will keep having faith in AV/IW that one day they might care for us...
You see, there are a lot of things that many players want to see disappearing from the game like:
- cheats/glitches
- boosting
- exploits
- over powered/abusive weapons
- quickscoping
- and many others,,,
But if AV/IW ever remove one or some of things in the list mentionned above, they will lose a large % of their costumers and their goal is to make the highest profit ever no matter what. So in the end they truly don't care about the us legit players because we will keep on playing even if we have to deal with cheaters and whining 12 years old kids.
MAYBE 3% of the people that bought MW3 have a modded controller. Maybe 20% even knows what a modded controller is.
Just because some one is better in a gunfight doesn't mean he is cheating
You totally misunderstood the thread. Go youtube search mw3 modden controllers and see how ridiculous some killcams are. The speeds at which people fire are not possible with a regular controller.
Also have you ever seen a video of someone doing a side by side video of someone using a modded controller? your answer is no. i know that.
Actually, you do not know that. I have seen their use side by side.
And, though there are quite a few players that actually believe it is impossible to detect a modded controller in-game, it's actually quite easy to catch them. In fact, this is the easiest cheat to detect.
People can kid themselves anyway they want to but that is the reality.
BTW ... fyi ... ROF is not removed by using the Rapid Fire attachment. The people selling modded controllers tell you that is the case, but I can assure you it is not the case.
In any case, besides numerous in-game methods of detecting modded controllers, there are behind the scenes records that verify the use of a modded controller.
Nonetheless, yes, most of the people using them are not at all familiar with the coding involved with how weapons fire in the game. As a result they over-rely on MCs and end up performing poorly.
I will grant that the few that are "good" with them are harder to detect ... but they can still be detected.
Modded controllers are the easiest in-game cheat to catch.
nuttin2say wrote:
In fact, this is the easiest cheat to detect.
very true.... no human is perfect, modded controllers are.... its as simple as looking at the time between rounds...
but it doesnt matter... IW would have hard capped the ROF if they didnt want people using them.... modded controllers only work if the developers allow them to, simple as that..
i dont think modded controllers are banneable, i might be wrong about it but i see there are to many brands out there now with modded controllers for CoD. there is one that made the mic i have for Gears of war 3. i dont think its an official remote but i think they are somehow close to legal since they are printing with the game logos. and since the devs openly stated "there will be QS" i guess some companies made the controllers specific for the game, which is one of the reasons why QS is here to stay.
i use the MK14 since people started whinning bout type95 and i can fire at least 4 or 5 rounds very fast but i too have seen people with it spraying with it like it was auto.
there is even one of those legal controllers out there that lets you specify how many clicks per fraction of a second you want which makes it perfect for QS since you can adjust how high the scope goes before it fires.
they also come with dropshot command and jumpshot already hell they dont even have to program them anymore.
i have thought about getting one myself, theyre close to 70 dollars. but every time im there i just think its a cheap trick and end up not buying.
i actually saw an official xbox 360 bf3 controller the other day and it had the things built in including 2 extra buttons under the triggers for coding yourself,i think that was 2 shoot and drop at the same time or something,so surely if it was bannable they wouldnt have xbox certified controllers like that would they?me personally i feel uncomfortable using any pad that isnt an original one.
well i just reported a guy using a juggernaut's gun as a fully automatic, i dont care how fast you can click nobody clicks that fast. i dont think he will get banned or whatever and i wish some mod could actually clarify this
There is a cap on RPM that a weapon can fire and that's just what these modded controllers do, they fire at the cap or just below so that they are undetectable.
IW won't ban someone for firing a weapon within its programmed limits.
G IH A IN ID II has stated that using devices to enhance the performance of the game beyond its designed intent as well as in any way adjusting your connection to gain an advantage not built into the game is a bannable offence.
The term "modded controller" was not used because, yes, some controllers can be modified in a manner so as to not gain an advantage in the game. Also he did not use that term because there may be means beyond a modded controller to gain the same advantage.
He did not use the term "lag switch" specifically because there are means to accomplish the same feat without specifically using a lag switch.
In either case he said these are bannable offenses.
You can contact Activision support for clarification or post this question in the Technical forum.
For example, scuf brand controllers are accepted for play in MLG and the euro league circut play. Meaning, they are "modded" in the sense that they are far from standard controllers, but are seen as being within the TOS of the game and Microsoft.
I have already put this question to XBL support a couple months ago. Rapid fire controllers (even licensed ones by MS) are for offline play only. If they are used and reported in MP games it is bannable. If you don't believe me just fire up a chat session with Xbox support.
I've heard from a couple sources that they're bannable, and I think they should be.
That said, my friends call pretty much anyone using a Mk 14 a cheater... so I can't imagine the tons of erroneous reports people give over just being frustrated over a death.
Here is my side by side trigger finger.
Here is a killcam of mine:
When I'm accused of having a mod, I calmly tell them my youtube URL. People dashboard on me, rage quit in the middle of games, report me till they suddenly disappear from the Lobby. None of it makes sense.
And I agree about the customized/nonfunctioning/nonTermsofServiceviolating done to controllers, like me changing out the weighted servos for heavier ones in some of my controllers. It's just a microsoft built part being transplanted in another microsoft built controller.